Comments on: Gordon Ramsay’s Female Chefs http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs Cooking - Photography & More Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:31:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: miles http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1097 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:02:01 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1097 SC, Well I have long wondered if and when the bubble is going to burst. A lot of celebrity chefs who have their own restaurants get slated because they are never there and the food is distinctly average. Brian Turner and Jean Christophe Novelli come under considerable attack for this, Ramsay does produce very good quality restaurants but he is spreading himself increasingly thinly. Miles SC,
Well I have long wondered if and when the bubble is going to burst. A lot of celebrity chefs who have their own restaurants get slated because they are never there and the food is distinctly average. Brian Turner and Jean Christophe Novelli come under considerable attack for this, Ramsay does produce very good quality restaurants but he is spreading himself increasingly thinly.
Miles

]]> by: SC http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1095 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:39:38 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1095 Sounds to me like he could have his own "Kitchen Nightmare" on his hands anytime soon. Sounds to me like he could have his own “Kitchen Nightmare” on his hands anytime soon.

]]> by: miles http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1088 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:38:41 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1088 Rod, If the chef leaves then the restaurant should lose a star and be re inspected as is the case with AA rosettes. Where Ramsay has been clever is by naming himself and Mark Askew as chef/patron and overall head chef respectively. That means that whoever is the 'working head chef' i.e. the one who oversees every lunch and dinner service proper can come and go because according to the restaurant messrs Ramsay and Askew are there anyway which keeps Michelin happy even though they know Ramsay will be off filming and Askew will be in Dubai/America/France or Tokyo. Miles Rod,
If the chef leaves then the restaurant should lose a star and be re inspected as is the case with AA rosettes. Where Ramsay has been clever is by naming himself and Mark Askew as chef/patron and overall head chef respectively. That means that whoever is the ‘working head chef’ i.e. the one who oversees every lunch and dinner service proper can come and go because according to the restaurant messrs Ramsay and Askew are there anyway which keeps Michelin happy even though they know Ramsay will be off filming and Askew will be in Dubai/America/France or Tokyo.
Miles

]]> by: miles http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1087 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:32:28 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1087 SC, That is what I base my criteria for employing people on, nothing more, nothing less. Women will see straight through all of this, it's patronising. Miles SC,
That is what I base my criteria for employing people on, nothing more, nothing less. Women will see straight through all of this, it’s patronising.
Miles

]]> by: miles http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1086 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:30:43 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1086 Christine, Quite right, why should a kitchen be full of women-or men? It's headline grabbing, that's all. Happy New Year! Miles Christine,
Quite right, why should a kitchen be full of women-or men? It’s headline grabbing, that’s all.
Happy New Year!
Miles

]]> by: miles http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1085 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:29:32 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1085 Derfel, Hence the post-you can't say something like that and then all of a sudden become an ambassador for women in the workplace. Hypocrite! Miles Derfel,
Hence the post-you can’t say something like that and then all of a sudden become an ambassador for women in the workplace.
Hypocrite!
Miles

]]> by: Rod http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1084 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:20:55 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1084 Miles I'm interested in this Michelin star business. Does it go to the chef or the venue? If the chef - can he take it with him? I suspect someone with Ramsay's high profile might be less likely to lose a star than perhaps others might - I have no evidence of this just a suspicion. As 3 stars are relatively rare I wonder whether when a head chef leaves that there should be an inspection once a replacement chef has settled in just to see whether it still deserves 3 stars or not. I could see how somebody who owns a chain could get 3 star chef to keep going around new venues, getting the stars then moving to the next newly opened restaurant! Once again it's just hypothetical and call me cynical if you like Cheers Rod Miles
I’m interested in this Michelin star business.

Does it go to the chef or the venue?

If the chef - can he take it with him?

I suspect someone with Ramsay’s high profile might be less likely to lose a star than perhaps others might - I have no evidence of this just a suspicion.

As 3 stars are relatively rare I wonder whether when a head chef leaves that there should be an inspection once a replacement chef has settled in just to see whether it still deserves 3 stars or not.

I could see how somebody who owns a chain could get 3 star chef to keep going around new venues, getting the stars then moving to the next newly opened restaurant!
Once again it’s just hypothetical and call me cynical if you like
Cheers
Rod

]]> by: SC http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1081 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:58:59 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1081 If a job can be done well, and up to the required standard, does it matter if its a man or a woman doing it, surely ability is the important thing ! If a job can be done well, and up to the required standard, does it matter if its a man or a woman doing it, surely ability is the important thing !

]]> by: Christine http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1080 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:09 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1080 Miles, Isn't this decision of GR's a form of discrimination? Surely, it is now understood that the job is for the best applicant, irrespective of sex, colour, age, etc. Happy New Year to you. Christine Miles,
Isn’t this decision of GR’s a form of discrimination? Surely, it is now understood that the job is for the best applicant, irrespective of sex, colour, age, etc.
Happy New Year to you.

Christine

]]> by: Derfel Cadarn http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1079 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:12:58 +0000 http://www.milescollins.com/wordpress/gordon-ramsays-female-chefs#comment-1079 Chef, very interesting post, I wonder if you could clarify something for me (no not a lb of butter) ... There was a chef called Gordon Ramsay a few years ago, not sure if it's the same one. He was a serious chef and not a game show host so I could be mistaken ... I clearly recall him quoted as saying <blockquote>I would never employ a woman in the kitchen as they can only work 3 weeks out of 4 !</blockquote> Surely not the same chap ? DC Chef,
very interesting post, I wonder if you could clarify something for me (no not a lb of butter) …
There was a chef called Gordon Ramsay a few years ago, not sure if it’s the same one. He was a serious chef and not a game show host so I could be mistaken …

I clearly recall him quoted as saying

I would never employ a woman in the kitchen as they can only work 3 weeks out of 4 !

Surely not the same chap ?
DC

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